tv CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow CNN November 13, 2016 3:00pm-4:01pm PST
we begin with breaking news. a lot of news out of washington, d.c. president-elect trump announcing two mayor picks for men who will surround him in the white house. reince priebus will be chief of staff. this overshadowed by the man he also named tonight. steve bannon, his campaign ceo will serve as his chief strategist and senior counsel. just the idea he was considering bannon as part of his senior counsel had many americans, including some republicans nervous. why? we'll dig into that in a moment. the press release said they would be equal partners running this country along with donald trump. dana bash on top of this helping break this story as always. what can you tell us about bannon's appointment in terms of what it said about how donald trump is feeling heading into the white house. >> he wants to keep the band
together that got him elected. that's as much as he possibly can. not everybody will be but as much as he can. that is why interestingly he put out this press release today both appointing or should i say announcing steve bannon will be his senior counselorer and chief strategist and reince priebus will be his chief of staff. it says bannon and priebus will continue the effective leadership team they formed during the campaign working as equal partners to transform the federal government making it much more efficient, effective and productive. that equal partners line is quite telling. there's various ways to structure the white house. there are some who have been in the white house and explain that to you. the fact he chose these two men doing very different things, very different sides of donald trump and very different parts of the republican party and sort
of the relationships to politics in general tells you a lot about the way he is planning to govern. >> dana, this steve bannon said he wanted to see speaker ryan gone by spring, who in an interview back in 2010 said the republican party needed to be quote, bitch slapped. are you getting any reaction from republicans on the hill. paul ryan statements only talked about priebus. he didn't mention bannon. >> that tells you everything he needs to know. the publication before he took a leave of absence to join the trump campaign was at breitbart, a conservative website which had been setting its sights very much on the republican establishment. kind of in keeping with, for lack of a better way to describe it, the tea party ideals that the establishment was heading in the wrong direction, was leading
the republican party in the wrong direction. they would go after on a regular basis republican leaders including paul ryan. it's not just that poppy. some of the concern that we're hearing so far privately from republicans, we'll see if that becomes a public situation is that while he was in charge of breitbart, there were some things published that were just flat out, frankly, unacceptable to most people. for example, one example is about bill crystal. he's a -- >> conservative. >> very much anti-trump. led the sort of anti-trump, never trump movement and continued to do so. i don't know if we have it to put up on screen. he didn't write this but he was in charge of breitbart. bill crystal, republican, spoiler, renegade, jew.
his religion has nothing to do with anything. according to the publication, it belongs in a headline. i will say that people who did not go into the campaign wanting to like or respect steve bannon said that what they saw in private was somebody who could perform almost as an equal to donald trump. somebody despite the fact he made his money going after fellow republicans was one of the people who tried to convince donald trump, the candidate, not to react every time a republican criticized him because it was bad for the greater good, which was getting elected president. >> dana, let's pull up. i have some of those full screens. let's pull them up. one is melt down continues, wave of fake hate crimes sweeps social media. the next anti-democracy cry
babies march by the headlines. why does this matter? steve bannon was the executive of this news website until he joined the campaign. bill crystal republican spoiler, renegade, jew. let me bring my panel in to talk about this. bryan, to you, give people the context of steve bannon and breitbart and explain to the american public the significance of it when it comes to pushing an alt-right agenda. >> this is a website that's grown by leaps and bounds in the past few years and especially during trump's candicandidacy.
it publishes lots of stories. it's a white nationalist website. a site that advocates for what it says is its audience. some is just baseline trolling. some is kind of troll behavior with a sight rejects both mainstream con sefbtivism as well as liberalism. that's why paul ryan is a top target. >> charles blow, you are appalled by this appointment. why? >> this is not really an argument. people keep wanting to keep trying to split the hair. people want to say i accept the parts i agree with and i can push away or push out of my consciousness the parts that i don't. i accept the parts of bannon that i agree with because he has had different jobs and he seems like a nice guy in person. i push away the parts that are not normal and not right.
i push away the part of donald trump who i still believe is a demagogue and a bigot because i want a supreme court that i agree with. i can push aside all of that. these hairs cannot be split. you have to continue to say this to america. you cannot have it both ways. if you're supporting trump, who is bringing both of these forces to bear into the white house, then you're supporting that. that is part of what -- you bought this. there is no way around that. there's no other way. there's no way the hide it. there's no way to say i agree with part of him or all of him. you get all of him you're getting bannon. you're not getting just priebus. that's a real thing. if you're saying somewhere out in america you're not part of the hate, yes, you are. if you're supporting this man and these moves. that's the way it is. i'm going to have the congressman respond in a moment.
i do want to get do dana bash. this is who donald trump's kids wanted as his chief of staff. this is who donald trump's son-in-law wanted as chief in staff. they got both. >> right. this is the person who the republican establishment, if you will, wanted and the people most importantly regardless of what you call them, the people who will be working with president trump in the republican led congress wanted. as chairman of the republican party knows them all, helped get them all elected, for the most part. most importantly, he is somebody very, very close to the house speaker. you mentioned the house speaker said in statement he's very happy that reince priebus was chosen. there's a reason for that because paul ryan has been sort of toiling away as a policy wonk trying to get some big issues passed. he's hoping with a republican president despite the differences, he can do that even
more so with reince priebus as chief of staff. that's the reason why. the other thing we should keep in mind in terms of the people who got donald trump elected, reince priebus ran an rnc that had an unprecedented role in the presidential campaign. they ran the ground game. they got people out to vote. he did it by making people angry by spending a lot of money in doing this sort of building up the operations in key states in a non-election year. at the end of the day that combined with the entheusiasm o donald trump, they were able to get him elected. >> donald trump didn't always love reince priebus. he said in april the primary system is a quote, scam, disgrace and rigged. then he went onto say about priebus, it's a disgrace for the party and reince priebus should be ashamed of himself.
>> you're right. that is part of the reason why some people who are close to trump had told us leading into this announcement that he was not so sure because he prides loyalty. loyalty is so important to him. steve bannon has been incredibly loyal to donald trump because bannon saw trump as the guy kwlo is finally pushing the issues and the policies and sort of the ideals that he had pushed through breitbart but reince priebus has a different role. he's chairman of the republican party and was during the primary process with 17 people running where he couldn't pick a horse. it was not always easy. even in the general election because of his role, he openly criticized donald trump when the access hollywood tape came out. >> and about the muslim ban. he said quote, i don't agree. we need to aggressively take on
radical islamic terrorism but not at the expense of our american values. that's been a key thing that donald trump has run on along with the wall. sop what happens when you've got reince on one position on that and donald trump on another. >> trump in the campaign a few months ago, at least, have had already sort of modified that muslim ban ands that something -- >> he never really clarified. sdplm what you have now is the hope of a lot of people who also didn't think that was the right way to go. somebody in the white house who is going to say that to a president trump. no, this isn't the right policy. whether or not he would be successful, who knows. you're exactly right. there were a lot of issues just like republican leaders in congress who until, i don't know, six days ago wouldn't say the name trump. they would just call him the nominee, disagreed with trump. now it's a whole different
world. >> great reporting. thank you very much for that. back to my panel. congressman, i want to let you respond to what charles blow said earlier. >> basically, i just got called a racist because i supported donald trump. i guess the new word for deplorables. i sponsored and authored the bill to build the african-american museum on the mall five blocks away from where we sit. with j.c. watts i recognized slave labor. i come from savannah, georgia. 50% of the city is african-american. i'm not a racist. it's easy for the left to say you're racist, bigot. i understand that. the campaign is over. i would say take a lesson from president obama's words the other day, oprah's words the
other day, or andrew young. it's time to reconciliate. i'll say this, i would not want to be part and i'm not part of the administration but if i was part of it, i would not want to be part of something where there's racism going on. i firmly believe in my heart of hearts that when you see the full team that the left, the protesters that are out there will be pleased with the inclusion. it's going to have all kinds of inclusion on it. i want to say this real quick about reince priebus. part of his asset was sean spicer who ran that ground game that matched what the democrats and president obama did in 2008 and 2012. he also had that part of him alone with the public face, he understands the strategy. the marriage will be very
powerful. >> david, the news of reince priebus is get overshadowed by this surprise event announcement and the fact that donald trump said they will be equals in this. what is your take overall on these two big names this sunday night? >> these appointments send out very conflicting signals that the presidency that donald trump envisions. reince priebus is well regarded, very promising appointment. very reassuring to republicans but many other people in the country, he's a mainstream conservative. there's no signs of being anti-semitic or racist or anything like that. i think he wants to make the system work. on the other hand, steve bannon is a very, very different character. he sends out a completely opposite signals. breitbart is known for, you read out one of the headlines for racism, sexism and he's known as
an arch conservativconservative. what is up in question is who will do what among this pair. it sounds like that what they have asked priebus to do is be the chief administrator to make the trains run on time to be a good operating officer but in setting direction for the white house for the long term it's more bannon. frankly, in a business, you would call bannon the ceo and priebus the coo, chief operating officer. i don't know that's what they intend. i imagine that would be a big let down to a lot of people. if you select steve bannon for mayor, major post, charles blow is right in this sense. if you select bannon, he brings his baggage with him . you have embraced that by appointing him. you do have to take responsibility for the believes
and values represented by one of the top two people in the white house with you. trump, himself, will call all the shots but one wonders if in the end of the day, trump is a composite of the two. >> you say you are who you surround yourself with. they all come from very different perspectives and backgrounds. stay with me. we got to get a quick break in here. i appreciate it. a lot ahead for us this hour. another white house former white house chief of staff will join me calling trump's pick an outstanding choice. he will explain why, next. the pursuit of healthier.
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all right. breaking news. you've heard it by now. two major picks for president-elect trump in reince priebus, his new chief of staff and steve bannon his new chief strategist. he liked the priebus pick. what about president george w. bush chief of staff. what does he think? thank you for being with me. >> good to be with you. thank you very much. this is an exciting day for reince priebus. >> i know you like the pick and that donald trump did this early. >> i'm glad that he did it. i felt strongly he should name a chief of staff among the first, if not the first person he would announce on his team so the chief of staff can help this building the team that will serve the president especially the team in the white house. also in terms of helping coordinate what the cabinet would look like. reince has a phenomenal record as a party leader. he's earned great respect on
both sides of the aisle. he clearly, i think, deserves a bulk of the credit for donald trump succeeding. i don't think we would have won wisconsin without reince priebus. >> take us into that seat, literally having a seat next to the leader of the free world, having his ear, advising him day in, day out in the middle of the night. what will the next few days be like? >> he hasn't accepted the job. he made a commitment to serve. the commitment is 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. he has a tremendous obligation to give the president advice and counsel. he serves at the president's pleasure but he can never work as if he's trying to please the president. he's got to do the right thing to help the president do the right thing for the country. one of the tasks he'll have is to make sure the president never makes an easy decision. s s >> you are the man who had to deliver the horrific news to
george bush on 9/11 that this nation was under attack. that is also the role he will serve to bring the worst news to the president. >> the cheefr ief of staff has important job of conveying information no matter when it comes in. the president was sitting in a classroom in florida. he didn't expect to have to hear that message. i didn't expect to have to deliver that message ever. it was a remarkable moment. it's an iconic photograph. i'm not an iconic person. i was a witness to how the president of the united states has to meet a responsibility they talk about as a candidate but it's one that calls for protect, defend the constitution of the united states. >> are you still with us? >> i am. >> i thought i lost you. what do we not know about the chief of staff role? what do we not know that we
don't see in those photos? >> it's got three parts. the care and feeding of the president, policy formulation and conveying to he can live up to the expectations. it's a tough job. you have to be unvarnished and have thick skin to put up with the complaints and take the spheres that are thrown at the white house and try to make sure they don't hit the president. >> what's the hardest part of the job? >> the toughest part of the job is really answering the question, does the president need to know? sometimes you're flooded with information and the president does not need to know it. other times a little bit of information, you have to tell the president. you don't want to do it but you've got to. it's managing personality, managing the staff, managing the process and giving good counsel to the president. >> just quickly before i let you
go, what do you make of the fact that not only was reince priebus chosen tonight but also donald trump named steve bannon as his chief strategist saying they will serve as equals. >> it's not the first time an announcement like that has been made when james a. baker iii came chief after staff, ed meise was white house counselor. i think there should be one staff, chief of staff at a time. i don't belief in duets. the chief of staff has the greatest burden. >> i appreciate you joining me tonight. thank you, sir. >> thank you. thanks for having me call in. >> have a nice evening. >> reince priebus chosen to be president-elect donald trump's f new chief of staff. we learn more about the man who
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who navigated republicans through a challenging primary. the trend to well, a whole election that's threaten to tear the party apart. here is part of the report. >> you are the man in the middle. you have donald trump doing his thing. then you have the gop establishment, whatever that is. >> that's a word that no one can quite define. i understand it. >> whatever it is. all those people over there who are not on the same side as donald trump. they're saying it's all your fault. how do you let trump -- why didn't you get rid of him? >> yeah. well, look, being in the middle, you have to accept the fact that there is a thousand opinions. i'm so used to it.
i don't even care. it doesn't bother me. >> you're not pulling out your hair? >> no, i'm not. people assume, you must be miserable. you got a horrible job. i don't see it that way. i'm not pouring baileys into my cereal. i'm not sitting here trying to find the johnny walker. this is fun. >> the day we spent with him, he raised $1.2 million with just a few phone calls. >> let's talk about money. >> took a brief break for hoops. >> hi. i'm going to take you guys down. we have a shot off this wall. there we go. come on. >> and showed off his prized possessions. >> the gavel. >> the gavel. this is when i won in 2011. >> every tempted to use it? >> yeah. i sdroendon't have to try that . this is the chair that clint
eastwood spoke to at the convention. when this all happened, i was perplexed when i was watching it. >> you and everyone else. >> when i leaned over because i was down behind the stage most of the time. i leaned over the balcony to look and see the center teleprompter and it was blank. i thought there's nothing on that screen. he's just winging it. then i remember going back, i told the chief of staff at the time, i said get me the chair. he also keeps three items nearby he says are critical for getting through the day. the grerepublican party platfor. >> this is my safe zone. >> i have the schedule on top because i will put on mlb tv in the background if i need to not watch the news.
>> other escapes. time with his family. >> try to eat with cameras in your face. >> and he plays the piano really well. ♪ >> just goof off. that's what i do. >> he admits he's always been a proud political nerd. as early as third grade he was lobbying classmates to support ronald reagan and he used the gop to woo his wife. >> you went to prom together but on your first date, he took you to a political dinner. he took you to the lincoln day dinner. >> right. >> swept you off your feet. >> right. >> what kind of first date is that? >> it's crazy. i think he tricked me. i think he tricked me. i ended up at the political
event, which i didn't know about at first because he told me we were going to the movies. we made it. it was pretty boring. it was pretty bad. we did go to the movie afterward and we had great time. >> he says you can't say you didn't know what you were getting into. >> right. i did. >> that said, neither one never third quarter their lives would be consumed by the roller coaster of donald trump. >> reince is very strong. he has a thick skin. he lets it roll off his shoulders. he's tough. he doesn't tolerate a lot of drama. >> doesn't tolerate a lot of drama. thank you for that. we have been talking to former white house chiefs of staff about trump's decision to name reince priebus. next john sununu joins me live from new hampshire. stay with us. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways
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breaking news coverage of the two key white house staff announcements made tonight by president-elect trump. reince priebus named as white house chief of staff and steve bannon named as chief counselor to the president-elect. priebus worked closely with trump to get him elected. he was the former chair of the republican party and general counsel to the rnc before that. steve bannon is breitbart ceo. former new hampshire governor and white house chief of staff to president george h.w. bush john sununu joins me from new hampshire. thanks for being with me. >> good to be here. >> you came out and endorsed donald trump. you said this is the only man that will bring change to washington. this is not exactly status quo to name two men as equals as he
described them as equal. reince as the chief of staff. steve bannon as senior counsel. what do you make of both of those announcements? >> rain is a great announcement. he understands politics and policy and process as people. he's got a thick skin. those are the basic qualifications that you need in a chief of staff. bannon is chief of staff. he needs somebody close to him. i think that's a good appointment. >> you think bannon is a good appointment because that's definitely the controversial appointment. this is one who ran breitbart that pushed the, the alt-right agenda that's had anti-semitic headlines, to say the least. things he says he's not. there's concerns about him. do you have any of those?
>> obviously, breitbart is very controversial and steve has been involved in that. it's a controversial appointment. if the president is comfortable with it and it's somebody that he feels has been giving him good advice and will continue to give him good advice, it's only important what trump thinks about that appointment as counselor. the hard job of administrating the white house, of dealing with congress, of working with the cabinet, of making things happen constructively and getting the president's agenda through will be reince priebus' job as chief of staff. >> the chief of staff to george w. bush, he came after you, he said that he doesn't love the idea of duets or the chief of staff having an equal. what do you say on that? >> i agree with andy. andy was my deputy chief of staff. he knows the white house as well as anybody alive today. the fact is once you create
this, some people want two equals, you're creating an unnecessary tension. they really have two separate jobs. they may be equal in status, the way cabinet officers are all equal but there are unequalities even within the cabinet. i think you'll see an inequality develop and i suspect the chief of staff will be the go-to go for the president. >> i got 15 seconds. you said you think will trump will pick a woman in his cabinet. who? >> i think he'll pick a woman. i'm not sure who. folks are talking about kelly ayotte. >> maybe defense secretary. >> she could do that. she was great on the defense committee in foreign affairs in congress. i think she's got the capacity to do that. i think she would be great. >> she didn't support donald trump at the end. would that be a problem? >> donald's going to be a big
man. that's not going to be an issue with him in his selections. it may be a consideration but not an issue. >> appreciate your time. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> quick break. we're back after this. our mission is to produce programs and online content for african women as they try to build their businesses and careers. my name is yasmin belo-osagie and i'm a co-founder at she leads africa. i definitely could not do my job without technology. this windows 10 device, the touchscreen allows you to kind of pinpoint what you're talking about. which makes communication much easier and faster than the old mac that i used to use. you can configure it in so many different ways, it just, i don't know, it feels really cool. i feel like i'm in the future. i'm not a customer, but i'm calling about that credit scorecard. give it. sure! it's free for everyone. oh! well that's nice! and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! i'm so proud of you. well thank you. free at at discover.com/creditscorecard, even if you're not a customer.
chairman as chief strategist. jack kingston is back. our host of reliable sources with with us antsz simone sanders and press secretary for bernie sanders. let us dive in to see bannon first. he's the won getting a lot of attention tonight over reince priebus. this is a surprise announcement to name two men as equals. this is a controversial pick. why? >> uniquely controversial. a lot of our viewers at home, this is frightening to themg. i think we should knowledge this. this may feel like a national emergency. why? steve bannon has been described
as a white supreme assist. these are not random people saying this. these are people like anna navarro. his ex-wife alleged that he said he did not like jews. he denied that. there are friends of his who say they have known him for years and have never heard a racist word or action from his mouth. all that said, bannon is uniquely controversial. john weaver saying the racist, facist extreme right is represented footsteps from the oval office. >> why do you disagree? >> when somebody quotes an ex-spouse, i think it's worth responded to. ex-spouses rarely say complimentary things. >> even if you were to put that aside, response to weaver. >> anna is calling him a white supremacist. she's a conservative.
>> she did not support donald trump. i understand why people want to continue this campaign but i can say this, as somebody who has been involved with this campaign and worked with steve bannon, i found him to be an honorable guy, a hard working guy. i understand why the left fear him and they want to continue to stir the pot. >> this isn't the left. bryan just pointed out john weaver and anna navaro. those are two conservatives. >> a strategist for kasich is an objective party. he voted for john mccain. he's a never trumper. he's a never trumper. i can say this, as somebody who worked with steve bannon, i did not see any of these horrible charges that keep coming up. this is what we heard in early august when he got on board. the campaign will turn into a horrible organization.
the rhetoric, which is left loves to refer to all happened pre-steve bannon. >> david. i'm running out of time. david, what do you say to the ko congressman? he said the worse stuff was pre-bannon. >> he's got some good points. i think he's trying to represent the position honestly. i think it's fairly or unfairly, steve bannon has become a symbol for many oud who did not vote for trump but who are now in the streets. they're deeply aggrieved and there's a real sense they are being marginalized and white nationalism has reared its head, racism as reared its head. donald trump is entitled to put anybody he wants in the white house. that goes with the territory. when he does that, he has to understand that it does send a message. i think the time is coming, i
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this is cnn breaking news. >> top of the hour, 7:00 p.m. eastern. i'm poppy harlow in new york. you are live in the "cnn newsroom," and we begin with breaking news tonight. donald trump, president-elect, making a major announcement, naming rnc chair reince priebus as his chief of staff. this news accompanied by a second announcement from trump that this man, steve bannon, his campaign's ceo and the executive chairman of breitbart news, will serve as trump's chief strategist and senior counsel. bannon is a controversial figure. the news